Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Our answers to our commentators

Some questioned us why do we only target SPEAK. Reason being:

SPEAK, as everyone probably knows by now, won the majority of the seats on the MSC during the last elections. The actions that were carried out by the MSC 2008 were mainly tabled by members of the SPEAK party. The actions of the current MSC, reflects the ideology that the party SPEAK has as a whole. As SPEAK have re-registered their name for this current election, we fear that the same action would be continued again. We fear that SPEAK's actions this year may be reflected next year should they get elected. As quoted by former MUSA in our comments, legacy will continue.

We believe it is OUR student rights to voice out our concerns. We are dissatisfied with SPEAK. And we've seen some of the worst power abuse cases in MUSA history committed by none other than the leaders of SPEAK. Either this year or last year.

And our arguments on this blog thus far are not 'baseless accusations' without facts. Information on issues such as laptop purchase can all be found in the meeting minutes, which ironically was only put up once we noted that minutes have been missing throughout the year till now. And to be honest, I would also doubt the authenticity of the meeting minutes since it's put up only as of late. We never know if the reports have been edited and modified to suit and favor SPEAK's position in this situation. The reports should have been put into pdf format. Where is the transparency promised every year by SPEAK?

Just like how accounts on student funds without professional auditing can be easily manipulated.

Finally, we would like to clarify that we are independent from all political parties involved in MUSA Elections 2008. We have no connection with ANY candidates of SPEAK, SMILE, Election Committee, or individual candidates. We are a group of students who are greatly dissatisfied with the SPEAK governance, and believe that these power abuses should be made known to students. They have a right to know what's going on especially when transparency is lacking, and we believe that together we may exercise our power and rights collectively to push for an improvement in OUR Student Council!

132 comments:

Anonymous said...

let's just vote out these speak idiots

Anonymous said...

To those who accuse Yung Lin or SMILE for defaming SPEAK through this blog: Unless you have concrete and solid proof to show that they are really behind this, don't simply accuse them, for goodness sake!

Which is equivalent to slander and defamation to SMILE!

Anonymous said...

Why dont you SMILE and give a low blow to the opposing parties...

dont vote for smile.they are a chinese oriented party that will pay no attention to us international students.do you want only a certain race to control everything?

Anonymous said...

but there's no proof smile is behind this

Anonymous said...

and also no proof on SPEAK is behind this.

Shouldn't the author close the blog? Wasting everyone's time only

Anonymous said...

SPEAK is the one who don't care about international students!

So we now know who our Monash Ball pageant finalists are.

But we can't help but wonder... Is race now a criteria behind the selection?

For all we know, NONE of the Monash Ball pageant finalists are international students.

And, ALL of the Ms Monash ladies are Chinese!

MUSA Council biased towards races? International students don't stand a chance? Non-Chinese girls neither?

Shouldn't they at least include international students and girls from race other than Chinese to reflect diversity and equality?

Does SPEAK not care for international students?

Anonymous said...

smile is a racist party?now i know better....

Anonymous said...

precisely!

You all are overdoing it already! Next you going to accuse ppl of sodomy?

From MUSA's blog, they are open for a debate. Author, so smart talk so much...come debate la!!!

Don't hude behind mama's skirt!

Anonymous said...

"For all we know, NONE of the Monash Ball pageant finalists are international students."

i think no international student ever submitted any nominations kua...so how now brown cow?you got proof ar got international student got nominated?show la here.your mader fader go die la

Anonymous said...

oh puhleesee... Don't politicise the Mr and Ms Monash la.

Talk so much, got nominate your friends ar? If no international students than how to get them become finalists?

There is also a singaporean-there you go!

Anonymous said...

Anyways...whats wrong with the current Mr and Ms Monash?

They are all very nice people. The indian guy today might not be the most good looking, but he seems very likable...

Anonymous said...

people still do not understand. Whoever the owner of this blog thinking it will sway voters to SMILE are stupid.

There are so many people already mentioning if they want to criticize, criticize the current MUSA council of 2008. Instead, they choose to criticize a party which is incidently running using the same ticket this time around. Coincidence? Definitely not!

Besides, MSC 2008 is made up of people from SPEAK,BLAZE and some new students. It is unfair to shoot only one party right?

As far as i know, Publicity and Welfare pisses me off! People in publicity are so rude and my silver wings cert take so long to come one?Lockers so little!

I heard the current welfare officer from SPEAK is running for SMILE next year? What a joke!

Anonymous said...

Maybe should put ads..can make lotsa money!

Anonymous said...

Since SMILE is a party like BLAZE...maybe can rename them as MAZE!---bring ppl turn left, turn right, always sesat one...

Anonymous said...

did u guys even read the article??They are saying that if we vote for speak their legacy will continue and hence, these actions may continue. maybe the speak people who are running for smile dont believe in the ideology that speak believes in. its like democrats and republicans. if you think that the republicans ideology suits you better than the democrats then u will follow the republicans.

Anonymous said...

you got ask the new speak or not?

If got incapable people from speak running for smile means??

Anonymous said...

This is a true story. I wanted to get my ad stamped so i went to the publicity office.i met with this guy, i think this niama's name is justin.mch, damn fucking lansi wei...talk to me like im much lower then him.chowcibai i shaddap, still he talk like he damn king or something.puki punya org...i pay same fees as you you tink you so big wanna order me around ar..madafaker this guy face and attitude problem.pukitianganjingbabianakharamlanjiao.curse you mother father die jialat.

Anonymous said...

To those who keep emphasizing that SPEAK's "legacy" will continue, HOW SURE are u that whatever 'problems' that u've mentioned will continue on???? As one of the many anonymous commentors have said, the so called "legacy" only MAY continue. So please, do not be blurred by his words about the "legacy" shit.

Don't the new people of SPEAK deserve a chance to prove themselves??

As many of u know, SMILE consists mostly of SPEAK's past members. How sure are u that these people would not continue the "legacy" under SMILE's name??

Say no to SPEAK? Please, think again.

Anonymous said...

Dont smile :(
Dont smile :(
Dont smile :(
Dont smile :(
Dont smile :(

Anonymous said...

Dun pray pray wei...i heard that justin guy got black belt in taekwondo.late he flying kick you you masuk ICU le....how then?

wakakakakakaka

Anonymous said...

the students of monash have given speak 2 times to show if they can deliver their legacy and prove to us that they can perform which the website points out that they cant!why should we have to give speak a 3rd time just because they are bring in all new candidates?what if their legacy continues?then monash has been fucked for a 3rd time.does anyone even know what is the ideology of smile yet?

Anonymous said...

And the same people from speak that you accuse of being incompetant ar not forming smile. Do you get it or not into your thick skull?The new speak are all new membersla stupid!@!!!!

Anonymous said...

but then the speak ideology..the FOUNDATION of the party..do u even understand?they maybe new but their guidance will come from the old speak people

Anonymous said...

their guidance from old speak?then what abt the current council who are from speak and entering smile?isnt it the same then?you farking dipshit...think first before being biased to one side

Anonymous said...

LoL so true nick! and justin is in the election committee, don pray pray!

Anonymous said...

u stupid fuck,thats why we have to wait for smile to tell us what is their ideology. every party has their own ideology, how do we know that the smile ideology was more towards the old speaks peoples own belief. maybe thats why they went to smile and decided not to run under speak again. if they still accepted speaks ideology they would of wanted to run under the party's ticket again.

Anonymous said...

Thats very nice of you to sit down shake leg and wait for smile to come up with an ideology. Later if get elected everything sit down shake leg also la...Your mentality is a disgrace even to us university students....its people like you supporting a third rate party like smile making the university a third rate one.elections are coming and no ideology or foundation.says alot for the stability of the party eh?You.are.honestly.dimwitted and most probably biased because you have friends in smile.I however will take your advise and wait though, for the presidential debate and see who gets whooped in the ass. With a party that has an editor who cant speak a single sentence of proper english, I doubt many people will have faith for that certain party.

Anonymous said...

has the election booklet even come out yet?how do u expect to know the ideology of smile when then booklet hasnt even come out.obviously you dont know the election regulation.the party cant put up posters until during the election campaign. read the election board!the regulations are there..and how do u even know that the editor cant speak a single sentence of proper english??how sure are you that this website is set up by smile?and you say i am 1-sided..look whos talking

Anonymous said...

haha dumbfuck...looks like you know alot about the elections too.dumbass, you just proved that you are infact an insider as well, Im not pointing fingers now to who u are more biased to, but well, since u know so much, u just cant be an ordinary student.

questionable acts of rage spamming only leads you to being exposed.

Stop being a sohai and go get laid.

Anonymous said...

i was involved in a previous election..and so i do know how the elections work..i wouldnt deny it..it was an experience which taught me alot...maybe you should go 4 it 1day..teach u what goes on..and how much hell all the parties go through

Anonymous said...

Go sleep la asshole.my life is not devoted to answering ur pubescent rage here.claim all u want abt being involve in this and that yadayadayada.doesnt change the fact you are still an asshole.

go suck a dick for once.closet fag

Anonymous said...

Again,

Monash Student Council 2008 is not SPEAK nor BLAZE.

Monash Student Council 2008 is someone that was elected by the students and work for students.

Get points clear. Not all the decision made by the council is accounted to SPEAK nor BLAZE.
Those decision were by MSC which comprised of BLAZE, SPEAK and Individual Candidate.

If you think SPEAK has sort of dominated the council, then why arent the "so-called-BLAZE" office bearer making any noise?

THINK! Monash Material.

Ginkojyuin said...

considering we are all Monashians... we should be able to THINK logical. i'm bloody shocked that we have so much flaming going around...

it is true that majority of the current council will be heading SMILE... but considering problems arise from the people who are joining SMILE, what are the chances of it re-occuring? I'm not saying all the problems are caused by them, i'm just saying there has been some caused by them.

and considering the SPEAK party is headed by a new bunch of people, shouldn't they have an opportunity to come out and speak? once again, i feel it's very discriminating to just allow one racial party to head everything else.

imagine, if everything was run in chinese... would anyone be able to understand it? especially the international students. by jove, i bet even the chinese jokes would be answered with, "huh?" when translated to english.

i support an all-rounded racial party, ... so i think SPEAK and the other opposing parties should be gaven a chance...

Anonymous said...

the ideology carries in the new speak? All new people! What legacy carried on?

SMILE instead has all the old useless SPEAK horses-there is also Alvin there...useless one...punching bag where? lockers where?

have you seeen his welfare posters? A tadika kid could write better!

SMILE my ass la!

Anonymous said...

Who is racist now? SMILE is racist! Talkin to them, you need to know your mandarin!

Have you ever been to joyce's(their VP's) meetings? All in mandarin one! Hello? Monash got teach in mandarin ah?

WTF???!@!@!!!

Anonymous said...

hmm.. i wonder y suddenly all bcom racist n acuse certain party is racist. This is a very sensitive issue, so i suggest, all see this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrREMNHXDAM

y i now see ppl also accusing Smile is from Speak? Isn't Anwar from BN? Now he is PKR?

hmmm... how similar...

root of the problem? i think is the person holding the highest position in MUSA currently. Who is that?

Anonymous said...

ATTENTION!!!

The reason why SMILE was created because the current memebers from speak do not want to work with a malay guy as their president.

Screw this racists bastards.Mana boleh cam nih?Pukila diorang nak buat party yg byk org cina jer...ingat kitorang ni bodoh ke?

Pantat anjing nyer orang

Anonymous said...

So let's sum this all up.

Everyone who are in a party are retards.
The current leaders SPEAK are retards.
This blogger is a retard.

My logic for all this? This is a student council election we're talking about, not a FUCKING election to become ruling party of the country.

You're not satisfied with the party in charge? VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

If that doesn't work, approach the leading party with petitions and what-not, and if that doesn't work DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IMMEDIATELY.


Don't sit around like stupid fucks BAAWWWWWWWWWing about something you're not happy about. Get off your fukken asses and do something about it. You all are empowered you pieces of shit.

And what's the worse a student council can do? Put you under IRS? Pretty retarded being scared of a student council if you ask me.

Anonymous said...

no.. its bcos i dun wan to work with malay guy as president... y would i not want?

its jz that i don't want to work with a guy who is the dog for musa president this year.

Anonymous said...

Malay ppl like saiful is the dog for a chinese majority ppl party like smile. Bet ur not even malay.Quit hiding you faggot.

Anonymous said...

i like big butts and i cannot lie, all you mafakas cant deny!!!!! rawrr


Saiful's Mum.

Anonymous said...

That new VP for speak is damn lengjai, sometimes i think about him at night. Also that publicity officer from SPEAK is hot..

big is beautiful!!!!

Anonymous said...

You guys SPEAK candidates and supporters damn stupid la!

Everyday talk about racial composition.

U think we're not tired of it?

You guys have never changed since 2006!

You did the same thing to ACE, BLAZE, and now SMILE!

First you frame Daniel Tan for racism and got him disqualified. (ACE; 2006)

Then you blame Hui Ling for Monash Ball serving only Chinese food. (BLAZE; 2007)

Now you shoot Yung Lin for having Chinese in his party. (SMILE; 2008)

Think about it, doesn't SPEAK people have the same composition of Chinese people?

And don't forget the biggest leader of SPEAK who's seen through elections for these 3 years is a friggin' Chinese male!

Look at yourselves first before shooting others for being Chinese-oriented!

Monash students all damn sick of you guys di lar! Change tactic for once can or not?

Anonymous said...

have u guys ever thought of why so many former speak members join smile for this year's election? fr eg. joyce from speak last year is in smile now? why? who dare to say she sucks at her work? shes one of the few capable speak members and now she joins smile. what do u think?

these capable former speak members are tired and disagree with the legacy of SPEAK (the leaders).. we have seen the legacy of SPEAK for 2 years, why wanna vote for SPEAK for the 3rd time when the current president for the new SPEAK is an "apprentice" of the current president of MUSA (SPEAK).

Anonymous said...

all you faggotic dickheads and morons from niama chaohai SMILE tink u guys can simply topple us just by doing muthafuckas stuff lik dis??tink again assholes, cz we RULEZZ n we WILL RULEE for the 3rd time and send u fucking smileys to oblivion!just wait and c til the election, HAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous said...

from what we observed.. try to think, how many of these monash ball finalists are related to musa?

nobody apply, means don't have to do anything? and just qualify your fellow musa-speak-affiliated friends?

during last year's ball, i have seen the ball committee hunting for potential canditates for mr and ms monash..

think again..

Anonymous said...

all you faggotic dickheads and morons from niama chaohai SMILE tink u guys can simply topple us just by doing muthafuckas stuff lik dis??tink again assholes, cz we RULEZZ n we WILL RULEE for the 3rd time and send u fucking smileys to oblivion!just wait and c til the election, HAHAHAHAHAHA

Wow SPEAK so rude and lanci one ah?

This is a public forum, please behave yourself. How to lead students like that oh?

Anonymous said...

Anwar was from BN, but look what he's doing now: An opposition leader!

Why did he jump to the other side?

Because he doesn't believe in BN ideologies anymore!

Same scenario goes to certain people in SMILE who was originally from SPEAK.

They just don't believe in SPEAK anymore!

Anonymous said...

Fucking bastards...Dun try to be noble and say ppl rude...I agree with that speak will win again this election... monash student just trust how speak run the show.. dun think u all can just pop in here and try to take away what speak had worked on. If you think you are not happy with the way things are done.. Just fuck off from this uni and go somewhere else..

Anonymous said...

OH.... so u are saying that even if we see something wrong with the current MSC we should just ignore it and let u guys "run the show".. is this wat u claim the current MSC is "working on"???

I am not particularly targeting Speak in general.. just that I am not happy with the future leader of Speak party.. Mohd Ikmal.. First of all, I dun think he has the charisma and leadership to lead the whole MSC.. All he knows is do his rap thing and criticising people about how they look and dance... I know some of speak members might ask me not to defame him.. for those who do not know him... just ask around and u will find out what kind of guy he is.. everybody knows it but did not dare to say it because he is the best buddy of current MSC president Darren.

If Speak were to change their leader then i think they might still stand a chance... if any speak party members who are reading this, u should consider changing your party or your party leader.. I feel sad for you to be caught in all this just because you are under the wrong party and not because you are not capable... Anyway best of luck... and trust me you will need it badly..

Ginkojyuin said...

i'm mortified really. i haven't said anything wrong, or rude... considering i used to be from MUSA, and is a chinese. and why am i not allowed to criticize an all-chinese team?

i have every right to as a student and a member of the monash society, every much as everyone else. what i however, disagree is what the blog is saying which deviates and targets only a particular group. i consider the blog writer and saiful, an imbecile for saying things that are irrelevant to the subject matters at hand.

and another thing, i despise the people who randomly troll in here with comments that only serve to intensify the argument... it only makes the commentor look like an idiot... and gives a wrong impression out. if you're truly voters of SPEAK/SMILE, you would learn to not infuriate others.

p.s i have to say i don't think it's a purely racist issues. it's the fact that the all-chinese team has never managed things adequately. last year's musa committee made tons of bloopers, which were handled by some incompetent chinese... this year's event, was almost the same. i'd rather not see it repeated next year.

Anonymous said...

for your information i'm trolling every single dumbfuck that even bothers because the whole thing is just ridiculous.

MUSA helping to lead the students? WTF? It's just a student council, that's all it is.

Refer to my comment above, that says enough.

Anonymous said...

Well despite majority supported the opposition/Pakatan Rakyat, why does BN still dominate the parliament? Haven't heard of phantom voters or vote rigging have you?

Honestly I won't be surprised if SPEAK wins this year. But if they won with students questioning their integrity and suspecting they have cheated, less and less people will trust them and one day this SPEAK Legacy will fall apart.

If students are being more aware of what's really going on!

Just fuck off from this uni and go somewhere else..

That sentence rings a bell. Wait, didn't BN just say 'kalau tak suka, keluar lah!!!' ??

No wonder people are saying SPEAK behaves exactly like BN!

Anonymous said...

all you faggotic dickheads and morons from niama chaohai SMILE tink u guys can simply topple us just by doing muthafuckas stuff lik dis??tink again assholes, cz we RULEZZ n we WILL RULEE for the 3rd time and send u fucking smileys to oblivion!just wait and c til the election, HAHAHAHAHAHA


____________________________________

someone from SPEAK posted this, and irrana said i'm imbecile? Talking about irrelevant thing? then please comment on those SPEAK hardcore who resolve to cursing and SPEAKing about ppl's parent. And also those SPEAK ppl who r trying to bring up racist remark, yes that means you irrana, you singled out 'incompetent chinese', doesn't that made you an imbecile yourself?

With this I conclude SPEAK is indeed racist and resort to cursing when they cannot answer what they have done. This is even worst than what is posted on this blog. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Hi my name is Alvin. Me engrish not so good but I dream big want to be editor for MUSA.Thats why I join smile mah...So i hope you guys give me chance ar...I can do my work one even if I go pak toh with my girlfren one. Im not always arpund but I can ask ppl below me, my machai mar to do my job.Got 4 people running for editor so I can ask them do job for me la.Simple rite?I promise you if I become editor, MONGA will be mandarin issue.Everyone happy?

joanne liyeng said...

This is the image of Monash students.

No different from primary schoolkids squabbling over the prettiest long ruler in the tray.

I am so disappointed.

Anonymous said...

allow me to again stress how stupid this has become. And how stupid most of you are. Joanne is right, this is just downright sad...

I think a lot of you have a hard time getting this through your thick skull. THIS IS A STUDENT COUNCIL ELECTION, NOT A FUCKING ELECTION TO BE GOVERNMENT.

Since the lot of you are so damn fucking stupid, allow me to repost what i said earlier.


You're not satisfied with the party in charge? VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

If that doesn't work, approach the leading party with petitions and what-not, and if that doesn't work DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IMMEDIATELY.


Don't sit around like stupid fucks BAAWWWWWWWWWing about something you're not happy about. Get off your fukken asses and do something about it. You all are empowered you pieces of shit.

Anonymous said...

And allow me again to stress,

What's the worse a student council can do to you for opposing them? Put you under IRS? Throw you into jail? TAKE AWAY YOUR SO-CALLED POPULARITY? Pretty retarded being scared of a student council if you ask me.

Anonymous said...

Is it really worth to vote for the opposing party if you think the current one is a fraud?is it worth the one years wait for us students?

We want reformation. But then we have to see from both sides. I say just cut the crap with all this dissing and personal attacks and see how it goes with the presidential debate. The ring is open to any debate or any dissatisfaction.Voice out over there.Not at this pseudo blog.

I personally think this blog is not worth the time to watch.

Anonymous said...

amen.

Lets just wait at the debate ok?

Anonymous said...

fuck u back u mother fucker... if u dun care about wwhere your 50 bucks goes to becoz when u cry your mama will give u money.. for some of us we do care wat we can do with our 50 bucks..

That is y this blog is created, to let people know wat is happening. These are not assumptions. If u dun care y the fuck u come and read this blog. Go back and suck your mama tities and maybe she might give u money to buy yourself a dildo you mofo.

YOU GET A DAM LIFE FOOL.. Go back and hide under your father's balls to get some shelter before it rains..

Anonymous said...

Yo yo yo..who is in the hse??? Non other than the famouse me the Egg-ky.

I know how to rap very well. I will rap my way thorugh the election and wear my cool cap and short pants to show u guys how cool is my leg hair...

Yo yo yo...who is in the hse??? I will rap all day long during MSC meeting to entertain u all.. I will rap the shit out of myself during Monash Ball...

Yo yo yo...who is in the hse??? I will rap in cafeteria to entertain students while they are having their meal. So vote for me and i will rap rap rap for you becoz the only thing i know is rap rap rap!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey Darren, how is yer Toshiba laptop? Wah... that day we play Dota with it. Sorry ah i borrow your laptop for a month coz my laptop got some problems. Anyway u wont be needing it ma.

When you are free lets go chill out and have some cigarates... I heard got some people have some problem with you in MUSA.. Just stay cool and ignore them.. You already got what you wanted.. what can they do? Cheack your accounts? They can't find anything so relax..

See ya...

Ginkojyuin said...

wow. i didn't know dahlia had bad engrish. >.>; that's definitely NOT dahlia!

which reminds me saiful.... considering i am a chinese and have been in situations where my own 'race' is racist against me because i can't speak my own mother tongue... i think i must honestly say i do have VERY BIG doubts over my own race and their incompentence.

and since when did i NOT target the people who claim to be from SPEAK? i feel like it's very stupid of them for being rude, because it creates a disharmony and much misunderstandings over things.

at the same time, i find it IMBECILIC of the people who randomly troll here with names that they obtained out of nowhere, to illustrate and fabricate stuffs that never really happened!!!!

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with you Irana. Speak or other party supporters should really try to keep foul languages and personal attacks out of these conversations. Firstly, it is disgrace to Monash students. We are in uni not in high school.

Lets look at this from another point of view. This should be a healthy debate on some of the issues that were brought up. If Speak members intend to defend themselves please do it in an appropriate manner.

Btw, i know there are some speak members that really did an excellent job. For example, the activity chairperson Joyce (pardon my spellings). I think she really put her heart and soul in her work. However, I will not deny that i have some doubts over other council members from Speak such as the president and the vice president. I'm not really convince that buying a luxury laptop is going to save MSC funds. However, I will not come to any conclusion about them. Just my opinion.

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

@ Matt

You've just made Joyce's life harder by mentioning her name, now the unscrupulous commentators of this blog will have another person to insult/discredit and the like.

Anonymous said...

Will be right back after the break

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1zLuJSXqHM&feature=related

enjoy! whysoserious.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Funny how all of this just came out right before the elections..

Look guys. We are all University students right? Please, let's be mature and use our common sense. First of all, put yourself in the shoes of the current MSC
or the old SPEAK members (whatever you'd like to refer them as). It's quite hard juggling classes, assignments, and MUSA work (and not even get paid!). Criticism
always helps people to improve, but what is needed is constructive criticism not any "OMG YOU GUYS ARE DIPSHITS BLABLABLA" nonsense.

Monash is an international university with a global perspective. What makes Monash unique is that the students are from various cultures and backgrounds, and to
see all those cultures represented would be great. I'm not saying a particular one-race party wouldn't do a good job, we've seen what a number of them have done
throughout the year and hands down for all the blood sweat and tears they've sacrificed for us. But once again it comes back to the individual and not the Party.
Whether the election candidate is from (this year or past year's) SPEAK, (last year's) BLAZE, or (this year's) SMILE, the voting process allows us to tick the
individual not the party ticket right? So really, all this "SPEAK ideology" doesn't exactly make sense. As long as we choose based on their capabilities, and not
what their party is or who they are friends with, then you are already doing good for the Monash student body.

People who uses their brain and not their temper will see the logic behind all of this, and not let any rumours around the grapevine affect their decision.
Let's just wait for the election booklet and election week shall we?

:)

Anonymous said...

it is not SPEAK choosin the monash ball finalists. why r u guys gettin angry at them 4 not havin interational student finalists? blame yourself 4 not votin 4 an international student la.
SMILE sound lik such a stupid name anyway

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRs4icSHZd8&feature=related

Anonymous said...

Yes let's all be constructive in our comments instead of being childish swearing off foul language and cursing parents. It's really stupid.

Whichever party does that, it really reflects on your qualities and maturity level.

Come on, we are Monash people! We can do better than that!

Anonymous said...

SMILE = FAIL
YUNG LIN = FAIL
JOYCE NG = FAIL
JEEVAN = FAIL
JUSTIN = FAIL
ALVIN LAI = PHAIL

Anonymous said...

Re: My name is egg-miao

YOU ARE LAME. lawak tahap sekolah rendah.

Anonymous said...

ppl hide bcos the top post ppl abuse their power, and whatever channels is done to speak out about this is quickly closed. Now didn't u realize what our current gov did to the mainstream news? Its the rise of free speech in the internet that is the downfall of the gov.

Now.. what is wrong as using internet as a channel to voice out opinions? Bcos u can't control it therefore u fear it.

The truth is out there~~~~~

Anonymous said...

SMILE = FAIL
YUNG LIN = FAIL
JOYCE NG = FAIL
JEEVAN = FAIL
JUSTIN = FAIL
......
ALVIN LAI = PHAIL


haha to that!

JasonC said...

I totally agree with Joanne Liyeng.

World's TOP 50 University. Show some Maturity.

Anonymous said...

speaking of corruption.

Look at monash business club.

tens and thousand of riggit was lost.

who's payable for that?

Anonymous said...

my vote is for the likable not so good looking indian guy. wooosh!

i'm enjoying the comments more than the blog itself/ it actually makes more sense.

Anonymous said...

some of you don't realize what we're really doing is just showing how this whole thing is absurd, and hence why we're not taking it seriously and throwing curses around, and posting funny crap instead.

Next time some of you try to act intelligent, analyze completely like an "intelligent" person would do before simply dismissing some posts just because they have a few curse words. Then again, such words deserved to be used for such a stupid thing.

And before you go bla, bla, bla, i must say, welcome to the internet. The internet culture is very different from that of real-life culture (and before you go yea-right, lurk moar fagg0ts)

RoyalDishy said...

Just started to read this blog. At first it says so no to speak. Then it goes on to what speak has or have not done. Then it evolves to students pitting against each other. For crying out loud people, what is the use and point of slandering and making certain statements that cannot be backed up with evidence. What is this, a place for you to release your anger over something that happened to you because as far as the comments evolve from saying what the current problem are to pure insults and yo mama and yo papa insults. Grow up people, if you think that by doing that your point and voice can be heard then u are 100% wrong. What it will do is just cause people that u insulted to get angrier and insults u back and the cycle goes on. I do go to MUSA offices regularly but i am not involve so i dont know much of what goes on there. So concerning the cases that have been brought forward, if it is indeed true then it is just a matter of time before it is found out and if it never happened then the people that started to slander or insult others would be feeling pretty stupid then. I agree with zhen's earlier post that it doesn't matter which party anyone belongs to, if he/she is good at their job then they are good, if they are bad then they are bad. What's important is the benefit the students get and preserving the welfare of the students. What happens when new students or current students see the comments and post? what would they think of the students and student leaders?

Anyway. i hope i havent insulted anyone or slandered anyone, quite a long post. Hope that you guys and lose the anger and comment nicely and please do hold back on the personal or any insults. No one likes to be slandered or insulted

Anonymous said...

just proves how childish and immature speak people are.

don't you realize most of the swearing comes from speak side?

one even dare say 'we from speak will rule again! ^$^%#%$@%$&&'

identity revealed.

Anonymous said...

Is not just a blog which tell everyone not to vote for Speak (Even if I personally agree with that) but a lot of dirty politic is going in here. Those students who join the exchange and transfer program are strongly advised not to fly back to your home country, Malaysia. The country political is unstable over there, and right now Monash Malaysia is also another bad environment for students who wish to study abroad.

Eddy Lee.

Anonymous said...

Why is it wrong to spread our student govt wrong doing online?

Just like our national level politics, BN had the leisure of controlling TV and newspaper media. Until they couldn't control the internet, they made a whole fuss about it.

So what's wrong with spreading what students should know online?

What's only wrong is that the student govt can't control it!

Why fear what someone can say about you online when you have not done something terribly wrong?

So is blogging now an underhanded tactic?

More like the fact that the student govt has too much to hide!

Anonymous said...

for Pete's sake, the student politics has gone down this low!

What you should be focussed on is what has the council done with your money this year, and what would the future council be planning, or manifest to do for you next year!

Have they fulfilled their promises?

Will the soon to be council members you are about to vote for perform their duties and not quit half way?

If they are doing something for you, as promised, and not just merely, for e.g. buying a laptop solely for the sake of writing bloody minutes, but using it to benefit the students as a whole, THEN SO BET IT!

Anonymous said...

So, what has the current MUSA done for Monash?

Orientation : was it a success?

Street Carnival : did all students that attend enjoyed it?

Ball : will it be success? or sucky?

ohh.. before that, what are we comparing it with? Maybe we can compare with what has happen in the previous years?


In the end i think we need to measure how MUSA did this year. Does it worth having the same team aka SPEAK again for next year?

Open your eye

Ginkojyuin said...

that applies to all the teams, considering we're having the same people come back again... only ON A DIFFERENT TEAM!

(p.s. to Saiful, this is the part where i find your argument lacks. if you're going to target SPEAK as a team alone, then you'd have to remember that the other people who comprised of the MUSA council are now in the new party, SMILE. the activities and events you were mentioning? they were all run by Joyce who's running again in SMILE. isn't that a bigger reason why NOT to vote for her?)

how many of you even are positively sure that the SPEAK people are actually really people who vote and support SPEAK? unlike some of us, who're MORE willing to post our url and real name... others could have just randomly came in, just to spite and instigate everything.

i have to say, that there's no complete way to be able to compare each and every council, since they're run by different people every year. this isn't like the government where we have the parties ruling for every 5 years before another election. what you have is a 1 year run by the councils whom, if given adequate time, would be able to solve more problems than ever. i

magine what happens when someone who's unfamiliar with their work is trusted stuffs and have to cope with them within less than a few days? this is the exact situation i faced when i was apart of the MUSA committee... because i wasn't brief much by the previous person who held the position.

THAT is a very important info we need when running or when elected into the position. information!

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OH LULZ SUCH SERIOUS BZNZ

ONE THING THESE PARTIES HAVE IN COMMON AND THAT IS THAT THEY ARE INSIGNIFICANT GROUPINGS OF TARDS WHO CAN ONLY WHINE THROUGH THEIR ARSES SO FUCKING MUCH.

AND THIS IS "UNIVERSITY STUDENTS" OF MAGAYSIA. UNIVERSITY STUDENTS? AREN'T YOU PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF RATIONALITY OR IQ JUST TO BECOME UNIVERSITY STUDENTS. A MAJORITY OF YOU ARE EQUIVALENT TO KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS. ONLY GREAT FOR AMUSEMENTS BUT USELESS ALL AROUND.

SO HERE
I FACEPALM AND LOL AT ALL YOUR SORRY ASSESS

Anonymous said...

once again, there are a certain number of capable former SPEAK members from the current council who are running again under SMILE this year.. think again. they were once SPEAK members and why would they wanna run under SMILE this year instead of SPEAK?

when the people refer to SPEAK (current council) being corrupted, they meant "we-know-who" instead of those former SPEAK members who worked like crazy throughout this year.. please be rational when u rebutt and not just blindly "shooting" at other ppl out of anger..

to irrana who said..
"magine what happens when someone who's unfamiliar with their work is trusted stuffs and have to cope with them within less than a few days? this is the exact situation i faced when i was apart of the MUSA committee"

i truly understand this and it is monash students' luck to have a dedicated musa committee member like you. you should be aware of all sorts of problems caused by the top leaders of current council (SPEAK). as mentioned before, there are many other current council members who were from SPEAK that are really capable and dedicated. just that, the leaders of the party ruin the party's foundation and reputation.

there is always a saying, if the leader of an organization is corrupted, the whole organization will still collapse regardless of how capable the other members are. consider again, the leadership of the new SPEAK.. we will know if we have made sufficient observation and done some background research.

Anonymous said...

(p.s. to Saiful, this is the part where i find your argument lacks. if you're going to target SPEAK as a team alone, then you'd have to remember that the other people who comprised of the MUSA council are now in the new party, SMILE. the activities and events you were mentioning? they were all run by Joyce who's running again in SMILE. isn't that a bigger reason why NOT to vote for her?)



_________________________________

P.S. Irrana, I am targeting the leader n VP of current MUSA. Understand the role of a leader bears more responsibility. Do u blame Dato Arif for BN's defeat? or the Prime Minister? Icky is Darren's konco. Isn't that a bigger reason why NOT vote for him(SPEAK)?

Anonymous said...

Why is an extra laptop needed?
I don't see how it may be necessary.

In fact, last year's council did pretty alright without an extra laptop.

The Editor's office was well equipped with Photoshop and was able to produce sufficient issues of MonGa throughout the year.

The General Secretary was able to run meetings efficiently without interruption.

The Activities Chairpersons were able to produce good quality posters and publicity materials.

The Ball Ticketing Committee were able to administer ticket sales and collection effectively.

The Ball Entertainment Committee were able to deliver weekly publicity performance with sound systems from Facilities Dept.

So in what ways an extra laptop is needed?

Anonymous said...

The president should stand out and fix all the matters or just resign from his post if he can't able to explain all the matters to the public.

SET UP A "ROYAL COMMISSION'' just to question the key officer about what is really happen in this council. And also, Invite ACA to investigate about the corruption matters.

HATE THE CORRUPTION culture in Malaysia. Hope the MONASH ADMIN WILL ALSO LOOK INTO THIS MATTER SERIOUSLY.

ANDREW LIEW.... I LOVE Your STYLE!!! STAND OUT FOR OUR STUDENT RIGHT!!!!

Anonymous said...

From anonymous: "The way I see it, this "group of dissatisfied students" are just scared because they're a minority. Why do it in such a clandestine manner? Why not bring it up face-to-face? If you know your student rights, you wouldn't be afraid of marching up to the President's office and demanding to see paperwork and official documents."

If you really have such strong statements and argument about students bring it on face to face and discuss about the matter then why not you do so? By putting your name as anonymous shows that you are a "coward" like you mentioned?

I admit that by not revealing our true identity sometimes might give ways to people that spit out statements that are not supported by evidence. However, not revealing your true identity sometimes also allows people to speak their true minds without worrying about their own safety or even the current council would take any bias actions against them. Isn't that why you put your name as anonymous in the first place?

Enough of him. Back to the topic. I agree that council members should be chosen regardless of which party they belongs to, it is their individual capabilities that matters. In general the MSC is controlled mainly by ex-Speak party members and from comments in this blog shows that there are a lot of dissatisfaction with their work.

It is true that there will be a lot of stress when there are MSC work and assignments and exams, but this is the challenge of being a member of the student council especially in a prestigious uni such as Monash. Isn't that what they sign up for when they decided to run for the elections? There is a reason why they were chosen. If it is such a easy come easy go job to be a member of the student council then any Tom Dick and Harry can run for the election. There is NO EXCUSE to be under performing. If you can't take the stress then don't run for election in the first place. It is a privilege to be able to represent help Monash students to exercise their rights. Do not take your position for granted.

As for the new Speak president Mohd Ikmal. I don't see how a person that do not have the courage to run for election in the previous year and SNATCH the post from a VP that been through so much for the position while utilizing his "special" relationship with Darren(current MSC president), can actually dream of becoming the MSC president. I personally believe that this is too much for him to handle. Hope i didn't offend anyone as this is just my personal opinion.

Anonymous said...

eh dumwits...learn something first..

Frm what i heard, ALvin, the welfare officer who is not doing a good job at all, wanted to run for SPEAK, but he was rejected because he did a bad job!

He went to SMILE, and ended up as an editor! Alvin as editor? He put a criteria of "hardship" as requirement for one of his posters to join the welfare committee..

WTF???

Anonymous said...

If Ikmal can become president, any mat rempit in sunway can become monash director!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Muka Tebal ni!!!

Anonymous said...

What makes you think Ikmal is not good enough to be president?

If you had taken the time to get to know Ikmal, you would have realized that Ikmal is a decent guy, he's dedicated, he's worked closely with the MSC and he must have learned a lot from the current MSC and I believe all in all the current MSC has done a very good job of running the show. The same can be said of Yung Lin, working closely with the MSC, he too must have learned a thing or two from the council and the president.

Two students with similar experiences at the MSC, the only thing that makes them different is your perception of the situation and not of any one particular quality that they might possess.

Students of Monash, I urge you to get to know who you are voting for. Walk up to them, have a meal with them and find out who they are and whether or not they are the right people for the job.

Do not allow bigotry, prejudice, pride or ignorance to prevail. Because if you do then you're allowing yourself to be fooled.

Get to know your candidates. Go with an open mind. Don't look at the colour of that persons skin, the clothes they're wearing or the way they're speaking. Listen rather to what they are saying, listen and look for clues as to how their minds work. Get a picture, an informed picture and then encourage your friends to do the same.

Again I say, get to know your candidates because if you don't you are setting yourself up to be disappointed.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree dude. Ignorance is a terrible sin.

What makes you think Ikmal is not good enough to be president?

If you had taken the time to get to know Ikmal, you would have realized that Ikmal is a decent guy, he's dedicated, he's worked closely with the MSC and he must have learned a lot from the current MSC and I believe all in all the current MSC has done a very good job of running the show. The same can be said of Yung Lin, working closely with the MSC, he too must have learned a thing or two from the council and the president.

Two students with similar experiences at the MSC, the only thing that makes them different is your perception of the situation and not of any one particular quality that they might possess.

Students of Monash, I urge you to get to know who you are voting for. Walk up to them, have a meal with them and find out who they are and whether or not they are the right people for the job.

Do not allow bigotry, prejudice, pride or ignorance to prevail. Because if you do then you're allowing yourself to be fooled.

Get to know your candidates. Go with an open mind. Don't look at the colour of that persons skin, the clothes they're wearing or the way they're speaking. Listen rather to what they are saying, listen and look for clues as to how their minds work. Get a picture, an informed picture and then encourage your friends to do the same.

Again I say, get to know your candidates because if you don't you are setting yourself up to be disappointed.

Anonymous said...

And go and get to know Alvin.

You will not be disappointed...he is suitable for the editor post...in UTAR!!!

Anonymous said...

Same goes if Yung Lin becomes president?

Full of ah bengs and al lians talking chinese all the time. You will see a council full of dyed hair blasting feng tau music.

Anonymous said...

sigh... just hope that you guys and the current MSC will not be future Msian politicians.... =(

Anonymous said...

People, we juz lost MM Shop to EMO. EMO has taken over the MM Shop so to earn more money from us!!!!

Think of the money they had earned from selling our textbooks at a freaking expensive priceS!! Now this!!!!

BOYCOTT EMO!!!

Anonymous said...

Read those useless things above... thats what all of you people are...
useless...
Rubbish!
Get a life you racist people,
Go study for that exam... go do your damn assignments!

Anonymous said...

"Read those useless things above... thats what all of you people are...
useless...
Rubbish!
Get a life you racist people,
''Go study for that exam... go do your damn assignments!"

SHUT UP LA... Don't act like you know what's best for the students.... Since you are not interested in this issue... Go get a life for yourself..."
and don't post your useless comment here... wasting our time to read and your time to write...

NOW...''Go study for that exam... go do your damn assignments!" and if you reply this... or someone who wanna defend for him or her... YOU TOO ARE NOT FOLLOWING THIS GUY BEESSSSTTT ADVISE ON EARTH....

Oh ya.. Forget to tell you 1 more important thing....













JUST REMEMBER TO READ IT AND QUIETLY LEAVE THIS PLACE HERE...

Anonymous said...

Re:
"Same goes if Yung Lin becomes president?

Full of ah bengs and al lians talking chinese all the time. You will see a council full of dyed hair blasting feng tau music."

To Speak supporters,you people are being so racist and how ironically Speak is promoting a multicultural council.

Do you see Yung Lin or other chinese candidates have green or orange color hair? No right? In fact, they look more decent and more reliable than some of the candidates running under Speak!

In face, I think Ikmal image is worst than other candidates (Not focusing on his skin color here). He wears a fucky cap to uni, wears baggy pants and wear some chain around his neck! And the best thing is he do that throughout the whole year!

If you were to ask me I wont vote for a rapper to become the next MSC president!

What will happen if he becomes the next president? You need to rap your way through to get funds for any cub activities? LOL!!

Ginkojyuin said...

to jessica:

considering i used to be from SPEAK and hasn't used a single racist word yet... i find your comments rather harsh. and this is the internet, i'm not surprised if some other idiot is using those words and pretending to be a SPEAK supportor because... they're just there to cause disharmony.

plus, i worked with Yung Lin before... he's a cool guy without dyed hair. i can trust him but i wouldn't say i'd ever want to trust Joyce who'd be coming in again... so, my votes for SMILE are a lot slimmer compared to SPEAK, whom HAS been trying to promote racial ethnicity unlike SMILE.

Anonymous said...

make love, not war :'(

Anonymous said...

'.....i can trust him but i wouldn't say i'd ever want to trust Joyce who'd be coming in again... so, my votes for SMILE are a lot slimmer compared to SPEAK, whom HAS been trying to promote racial ethnicity unlike SMILE.'

Irrana, I perosnally found your comment bias. In no way SMILE has ever say, " We're promoting Chinese ONLY, other race bug off!". Have you ever heard them saying that. Both parties have a nice blend of local and int'l students. Mixtures of different races and ethnicity. Since when is the MUSA election is all about people's skin colur, nationality???

And for those ppl who are' HARDCORE, SUPER MULTI NATIONALITIES PROMOTERS': MUISS exist for a reason. and MUSA work very close with them for the benefit of everyone. and there is also MUISS election also. So if you guys really want to talk about ppl skin colours and nationality, talk about them when there is MUISS election and turn it into a racist election again but not MUSA ones. (In no way I am implying that MUSA shoud be all locals).

We should never judge anyone by saying: 'ya, this one is good, this one is bad.....etc.' Y dun you all step into the shoe and see the situation for yourselves? If you feel something is not right, tell him or her or them about it. SPEAK OUT! after all you guys are the one who elected them.

At the end of the day, it's not about skin colours, who looks cute, hot or beautiful, Elect people with ability to carry out their job effectively and with transperancy. All of us Monash-ians are ONE BIG FAMILY..forget the all those bad bloods and let's forward and make Monash Uni a better place to study and have fun for all.

Monash-ians for Peace!!

Anonymous said...

Irrana, Joyce has her own way of doing her thing and she executed them very well. No one can doubt about it!! You may have your own views on the matter so do others but at the end of the day Joyce will listen to everyone's opinion and make the final decision.

Does anyone dare to say ebents and activities done by Joyce is not good?

As to say SMILE has been bad, how do you know SMILE is bad?? They haven't actually assume any MUSA roles yet? you being judgmental: yes! you only say SMILE is bad coz some of the ex-SPEAKs members had jumped ship, crossing over to SMILE . and a lot of people wud say they're doing this because they want to cover up ta~~ta~~~ lots of reason.

In reality, SMILE hasn't assume any roles so does the new SPEAK, and we are not supposed to be judgmental on who is good and who is not tat good.

Monash-ians for Peace!

Anonymous said...

for people who say the new SPEAK is not using Monash Ball to publicize their party??

Think again!! THEY'RE USING IT TO PUBLICIZE!! according to 'insider report'. Though not the offical campaigning , they are campaigning already......3 out of 5 Mr Monash are SPEAK!! go figure!!

Coincidence?...hahas!! Bet ya!!

to stick pretty faces and cute guys onto the party would win votes of course tat's for sure...but we end up a new MUSA filled with bimbos and himbos~~~~

let's hope more of the dumb gurls and guys get woo away by those faces.....

hahas! new MUSA= equally same as last time.

Anonymous said...

ERM....dude.....SMILE also got lotsa of leng lui and leng zhai leh.....


vote for people with brain not bimbos and himbos as mentioned~~

Ginkojyuin said...

anon, as far as i've seen from the events... Manil executed them well.. and frankly, i'm quite disappointed in you. you answer back my comments without saying how or where you get your ideas from? if you do a proper research to every Monashian student who had participated the orientation events or any other events, you would have known not many actually enjoyed it.

speaking of which, you have yet to work with the MUSA council members... if you haven't, you can't actually comment on their work. something outside may be pretty, but what happens inside... nobody really knows except people from within.

i can tell you frankly that i do know whether they're good or bad, because i worked with them... before certain circumstances took place and made me leave my post.

anon, if you wish to comment further, i suggest you do leave a name and post why you actually highly support Joyce and SMILE. i'd rather hear it from a face-to-face debate, without you hiding behind an empty persona, because clearly, it makes me think twice of who you are!

Anonymous said...

irrana,

stop making your own wonderful comments, thinking that u have great knowledge about whats going on in the current council and criticizing joyce non-stop and SMILE.. from your behavior in this blog, we can already judge what type of person you are and i believe other ppl who read this blog will use their rationality whether to believe your comments arnot..

i strongly think that u have something with joyce which caused u to have so much hatred on her up till u KEEP concentrating on condemning joyce on a daily basis.

Anonymous said...

Irrna,

If you had been so 'good' from the day you started working with Joyce or any MUSA committee, you shuold have stage a coup to oust all the MUSA office bearer. if not all, half of them.

Get people to sign petition and kill all of them off, rather than talking abt it behind when everything has been done.

I worked with her for several occasions. the experiences have been good if not enjoyable.

Sheeessh!! Talk abt being being 'dedicated'!! In your face!

Anonymous said...

Mr. Monash and Ms Monash winner from SPEAK....ppl!!?

free publicity?? HAHA!!

didn't I say that before???

however, SMILE didn't join at all.

Some ppl prefer to work behind closed door rather than seeking publicity for every good that they've done.....

Anonymous said...

when will the creator of this website stage a real protest instead of just complaining online...don't worry..Monash got no FRU or ISA...lol

Anonymous said...

My friends and I were just oppressed by SPEAK this saturday during Monash Ball...

May we have your email so that we can send u the details in order for u to have a substantive example of how SPEAK misuses their authority and power?

We hope u can publish this incident and we will definitely support u in a real protest should u decide to hold one in Monash Campus!!

Anonymous said...

WTH guys??? Most of you are posting here to spill out your anger and swearings to those ppl you dislike who you happen to never personally confront. This is low. Plain low. You guys are just bitching around like scared lil bitches behind the concerned people's back.

Anonymous said...

LOL,

I didn't bother reading the whole comment thing, its way too stupid.

You guys don't have any argument here, just trash talking. I've been here for 3 years, no need to read the comments to know that you guys are retarded. Some Monash students really need to get laid.

Have sex people, sex is good.

Anonymous said...

Get a life people.
Life is too short to be pissed off all the time.

Anonymous said...

I personally do not side Speak or Smile. But for those who just criticised Smile for speaking chinese, and you guys are dissatisfied with the party ONLY BECAUSE THEY SPEAK CHINESE, then I would say, WELL, SORRY BECAUSE THEY'RE CHINESE EDUCATED. But the Chinese educated people would feel sorry for those who have just cursed and used foul languages towards others, because YOU PEOPLE ARE NON-EDUCATED!

Anonymous said...

RE: WTH r u guys posting...

Haven't you heard of voice of opinion and protest via online medium such as blog? Do you still live in the era where people holding parang and argue?

Forget about those cursing and rubbish-talking, there are many constructive arguments being posted here, if u are interested. This blog gives many monashians a platform to voice out their unsatisfaction against the current council formed by SPEAK publicly.. Do you expect these ppl to go infront of cafeteria, grab a mic and start talking about their unhappiness? This is the new era of utilizing blogs to stage protest like this and not about being "scared lil bitch".. Please use your terms appropriately to avoid offending other ppl.

Anonymous said...

RE: former musa

Give monash students a freedom of speech here? How about advertising this site in university?
Do you think people care about this matter? That SPEAK controls the council?

Everyone here is upset because this whole council thing and SPEAK are CLAN based. They wouldn't care about students.

Anonymous said...

advertising this site in university? whats the purpose of it? freedom of speech can be in any form.

if ppl feel like leaving comments here, they may do so.. if they are ppl who don't care about anything, they can just read and leave this blog.. whats the matter here now?

just let the ppl do what they feel comfortable with. we are here just to voice out what we think and not make judgement. it is good to share what you think with others.

Anonymous said...

RE: former musa

I was addressing those ppl who were angrily posting irrelevant stuff, and what's so wrong with commenting how they acted like lil bitches? Because they did. And wasn't it my right to express my thoughts about these retard comments? Anyway that's not the issue here. I'm just trying to clarify my previous post.

Btw, what is parang ?

Anonymous said...

why thw race problem should be blowed-up in this case??
Is race really matters in Monash Ball Pageant??
i'm speaking in neither SPEAK nor SMILE side
there might be 2 possibilities in this case:
1. this blog is hosted by SMILE and they tried to accused SPEAK
2. this blog is really the representation of MOnash student

Anonymous said...

>70% of the comments here are nonsense.

Anonymous said...

For those of you who think SPEAK is an "ok" council, and that there is no constructive examples of them abusing their powers...well, let me tell you that they were very rude and evasive when I questioned them.

I have nothing against SPEAK and once thought that they make a good council. To my horror, they used words like "you are bitched-up" and start calling their "gangster" big-size friends to assert pressure on my friends and I when vocal arguments cannot be won by them.

Simply put, 20 of us were cheated of our money in the Monash Ball by the so-called representatives of MUSA who "are not in charge but are in the MUSA committee and get orders from MUSA" (I am quoting those who approached us and insisting that we do what MUSA said, but when asked who exactly is responsible for such orders...no one took up the responsiblity).

In the end...20 of us lost to 11 of the MUSA members and their gangster-like partners. If this is not abuse of power and misuse of MUSA's name, then you ppl are welcomed to define what is.

Anonymous said...

Re: Anonymous

You meant those ppl those posted irrelevant stuff here? yea, i agree that they are really childish.

parang is a type of erm knife/sword/blade

Anonymous said...

'' SPEAK is the one who don't care about international students!

So we now know who our Monash Ball pageant finalists are.

But we can't help but wonder... Is race now a criteria behind the selection?

For all we know, NONE of the Monash Ball pageant finalists are international students.

And, ALL of the Ms Monash ladies are Chinese!

MUSA Council biased towards races? International students don't stand a chance? Non-Chinese girls neither?

Shouldn't they at least include international students and girls from race other than Chinese to reflect diversity and equality?

Does SPEAK not care for international students? ''


well im not a party member of any kind...just a student in monash, from what i saw on the miss monash nominees is that there WERE VERY FEW INTENATIONAL STUDENTS NOMINATED!!! SO HOW DA HELL ARE THOSE GUYS GOIN TO FINALIZE YOU IGNORANT HAVE NO CARE IN THE WORLD ABOUT WHATS GOIN ON IN MUSA PEOPLE IN THE BALL?!!

Anonymous said...

and if you guys...the ones who made this blog...if you have no balls to show yourself to us to 'VOICE OUT' your opinion...pls dont be so cheap to voice them out here...i can very well say that i did not see your ugly faces there...either you were there and that ure balls shrunk and u did not voice out letting other ppl who at least had the guts to voice out their opinions... PUSSIES!!
and if bein a monash student meant bein categorized the same with u balles nutcases i rather not be called a monash student!!

if ure so unstatisfied with monash...i can recommend you a few other universities which u can transfer ure lame sorry ass to!!! dumb shitS!!!!

Anonymous said...

if any1 is not satisfied with my comments..u can find me in the lounge!!

if you noe who i am and what my name stands for =p

Anonymous said...

I personally know few of the candidates in smile. I do speak mandarin to few of them. But wats the problem? Its jus my choice to converse in the language that I want. I also know that Li wen(secretary) and Luke(publicity). I know they cant speak mandarin. For people like Liyana(treasurer), Imrah(Activities), Steffi(VP), Sam(rep), Jeevan(rep), Cherly(rep), I don think they can speak mandarin also. some of them are international students also. Im sure there are more people in Smile party cant speak mandarin also. So don say that smile is mandarin group la.

Anonymous said...

haha i agree with this person here...even kim han(welfare),alvin(editor)...they both cant speak mandarin...so back off